
Thursday Jun 12, 2025
Paying Competitively is a Trap in Today’s Talent Game | Special Guest: Michael Maciekowich!
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Today, we’re facing a tough truth about compensation: if your strategy is built on averages, the best you can do is attract and retain average talent - because your stars won’t stick around. As roles become more complex and job titles lose clarity, pay certainty becomes your new competitive edge. The real question is - can we build a strategy so effective that pay never shows up in the exit interview?
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Timestamps:
10:11 – Phil’s Phired Up
12:47 – Is the 52% Stat Misleading
16:13 – Rethinking Pay Strategy
17:48 – Competitive vs Fair Pay
20:09 – Hybrid Roles and Compensation
22:22 – Burning Questions: Preventing Poaching
26:01 – Burning Questions: Pay and Exit Interviews
27:20 – The Manager’s Role in Retention
31:17 – Lawyer on the Clock: No Reverse Discrimination
36:10 – BLM Apron Case and Workplace Expression
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