This Week at Work
The only show to offer employers and HR professionals practical and timely insights into the workplace Powered by AAIM Employers’ Association and Ogletree Deakins. A Feature Group USA production. This Week at Work is the only show about the workplace that offers you front row seats AND a microphone, featuring human resource professionals and experts in employment law to bring you practical, timely and accurate insights so you can more effectively lead your organization. Join Phil, Burt, and other subject matter experts every Thursday at 7:30 am Central, for topics ranging from people management and compensation trends, to decoding the federal and local laws affecting your organization. This Week at Work was proud to be the premier news source and sounding board for human resource professionals and business owners who fought for their businesses during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. The feedback our podcast received was humbling - and you better believe we’ll be on the front line helping you build an even stronger workplace during the next crisis.
Episodes

Thursday Apr 13, 2023
Thursday Apr 13, 2023
Ep225:
What's driving all these layoffs? Could it make hiring easier for you in 2023? And what expectations do top candidates have and how can we meet them? We have Randy Simms with us from Simms Search to help answer these questions.
Philburt’s Phorum:
6:12 - Going viral over the past week, a job posting from a tech company in Texas included a note for the recruiting team asking for only “US citizens (white).” While the posting is legitimate, the company in question is claiming a former employee actually edited the posting to include the discriminatory language.
Special Guest Ryan Sims
10:09 - A large part of what we do is research and use data to provide a good benchmark of what’s going on in the market.
13:42 - Big tech layoffs aren’t necessarily shifting the sales in recruiting because those candidates are quickly snatched up. There’s still more opportunities and openings that companies are struggling to fill. It should be at least another three years before it balances out.
16:49 - Candidates are being much more upfront asking about compensation and remote work. They have more confidence and don’t want to waste anyone’s time if the position isn’t right, as they have multiple opportunities going at once.
18:00 - Companies that aren’t able to offer a remote or hybrid role are at a disadvantage and losing candidates.
23:05 - Companies that are staying with their same recruiting practices saying there is a lack of qualified candidates, yet other companies are getting those candidates. Organizations with good competitive compensation strategies are not struggling to bring candidates to them.
Guest(s):
Randy Sims, President, Sims Executive Search
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Thursday Apr 06, 2023
Thursday Apr 06, 2023
Ep225: This Week at Work we talk about how to develop supervisors and managers that perform well as people leaders. We’re joined by special guest Matt Wideman, AAIM’s Business Manager of Training and Development, as we discuss the benefits of providing new leaders the skills and confidence to succeed when transitioning to roles with added responsibilities.
Lawyer on the Clock:
5:06 - The DOJ has taken a renewed interest in what are called no poach cases, where one company agrees with another company not to hire the other’s employees. Specifically looking at wage fixing, which is a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act.
9:47 - OSHA has adopted a new rule under the Taxpayers First Act that outlines whistleblower protections in regards to testifying about tax violations.
11:45 - The NLRB is now seeking to regulate discussions of race in the workplace, protecting employees from retaliation for having workplace discussions about racism.
Special Guest Matt Wideman
24:34 - Demand is up for training supervisors. Top skills needed are communication, the ability to coach, and the ability to provide feedback to their teams.
30:00 - Poll results are in: the most important traits supervisors need are being supportive, tenacious, and communicative. Once we have those core basic skills, it’s important to layer on things like delegation skills, the ability to manage change, and dealing with conflict.
Guest(s):
Matt Wideman, Business Manager of Training and OD, AAIM Employers’ Association
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Thursday Mar 30, 2023
Thursday Mar 30, 2023
Ep224: Coach Donnie Campbell went from teaching math problems to solving paparazzi problems when award-winning actor Jason Sudeikis revealed on late night TV that the lovable character Ted Lasso and his witty leadership style was inspired by his high school basketball coach, Coach Campbell.
Campbell joined us LIVE on the This Week at Work HR Podcast to touch on this whirlwind experience, share thoughts on the most important characteristics good leaders have, and reveal who inspired him to succeed as a coach and leader!
Lawyer on the Clock:
7:54 – Last week Michigan repealed their Right to Work law for private sector employers.
12:28 - There has been a decline in private sector unionization in the US over the last 30+ years.
Special Guest Donnie Campbell
17 :05 - Coach Campbell is the inspiration for the TV series Ted Lasso, and will also be our keynote speaker at lunchtime at our leadership conference tomorrow.
22:32 - In leadership, example isn’t the main thing, it’s the whole thing. If you want people to be kind and honest, then you have to be kind and honest.
25:30 - As John Wooden said, doers make mistakes. If you're not doing anything, you're not making any mistakes.
31:21 - “Every morning, I wake up, looking in the mirror, and I just start laughing.” - Coach Campbell
Guest(s):
Coach Donnie Campbell, Keynote Speaker and Inspiration for Ted Lasso on Apple TV+
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Thursday Mar 23, 2023
Thursday Mar 23, 2023
Ep223: It’s another Mikey Mac attack! Our resident compensation expert will help us discover ways to stand out in the increasingly cautious job market as recession looms. All the while, available jobs still outnumber unemployed workers. What’s an employer to do?
Also, we’ll bring more clarity to the muddled Illinois PTO ruling we shared last week.
Lawyer on the Clock:
5:45 – Further clarified guidance has been released on the NLRB guidance that confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses in severance agreements for section seven employees is illegal.
9:04 - OSHA has been emphasizing heat-related illnesses in employees whose jobs put them at risk for this. They will also now be prioritizing personal protective equipment and trenching.
12:16 - We further clarify the new law in Illinois regarding required PTO, which applies to any employee working in Illinois, regardless of where the company is based. The DOL will likely offer further guidance on how this applies to employees working from home in Illinois while assigned to a Missouri or Indiana office.
Philbert’s Phorum
20:08 - Our trio discusses great trios in popular culture.
The Employer’s Lounge
23:01 - Guest Michael Maciekowich talks about competitive compensation, the implications of bringing in new people at or above current employees, inflation bonuses, and the disadvantages of clawbacks. Defining mission critical employees, and how to retain them.
Host(s):
Phil Brandt, President & CEO, AAIM Employers’ AssociationBurt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
Michael Maciekowich - National Director Astron Solutions, LLC
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Thursday Mar 16, 2023
Thursday Mar 16, 2023
ep222:
The 9th Annual AAIM Leadership Conference is coming up, and on today’s program, our keynote speaker, Jack Becker, joins Phil and Burt as we discuss process improvements in your organization.
Jack Becker is the leading speaker on process improvement. After a distinguished career as a combat proven F/A-18 Super Hornet Fighter Pilot, Jack has now merged the aviation skills of Crew Resource Management (CRM) and the Top Gun process to provide Supersonic Success in Business! Jack not only inspires daily improvement, but just like fighter pilots, equips his audiences with the strategy and tactics to get better every day!
Lawyer on the Clock:
4:03 – The job status of gig workers is making the rounds through California courts again, this time related to Proposition 22. The high-stakes results could up-end the gig economy. This becomes relevant in the Midwest because former California Labor Secretary Julie Su has been nominated as the new Secretary of the Department of Labor.
8:26 – Out of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, it was decided that PTO is not a part of an employee’s salary under the Fair Labor Standards Act.
10:38 – The Illinois Paid Leave for All Workers Act will go into effect January 1, 2024, which will allow most Illinois employees up to 40 hours of paid leave per year for any purpose.
13:57 – North Carolina recently upheld an employee’s termination due to a failed drug test. We have a program coming up at the end of the month, which you can find on AIMMea.org, on investigating impairment in the workplace and providing some good resources as well.
The Employer’s Lounge
19:26 - Jack Becker reviews our poll results on what first comes to mind when discussing process changes, and why it’s important to focus on continuous improvement.
24:07 - Human factors that go into continuously monitoring and improving processes are soft skills that allow the more technical factors to improve.
26:06 - The wingman mentality grows trust and confidence in each other, which allows us all to achieve peak human performance.
Host(s):
Phil Brandt, President & CEO, AAIM Employers’ AssociationBurt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
Jack Becker – former combat fighter pilot, process improvement consultant, and keynote speaker at the upcoming AAIM Leadership Conference
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Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Thursday Mar 09, 2023
ep221:
We continue a conversation that started last week when discussing recent court rulings in the space of wage and hour and exempt/non-exempt status. And just as a meteorologist offers guidance on whether to dig out the umbrella, Phil and Burt offer what’s on their radar when it comes to forecasting the impact of the FLSA. Wouldn’t clear skies ahead be nice?
Lawyer on the Clock:
6:24 - Many companies are transitioning from having a difficult time finding employees to doing layoffs, and one thing being seen at many of them is targeting diversity programs first, which is being noticed by the media.
11:24 - May 11, 2023 is the day emergency declarations implemented during the COVID-19 pandemic will expire. This means starting July 10, certain things are going to end that affect COBRA. Businesses should consider sending communications to inform participants about the deadline changes.
13:40 - Julie Su has been nominated to lead the Department of Labor, but faces some strong opposition from the International Franchise Association lobby.
Philburt’s Phorum:
16:19 - Have you heard about body doubling for those who work at home? Remote workers are meeting with others on TikTok or Zoom to keep them company while they work. It provides a sense of community and helps them stay on task.
The Employer’s Lounge
22:15 - Poll results: How do you stay up to date on changes to wage and hour laws and regulations? How do you communicate your policies?
24:41 - Exempt vs nonexempt for FLSA: DOL fact sheet number 17a covers exemptions for executive, administrative, professional computer, and outside sales employees. And giving an employee a fancy title does not provide exemption, the DOL sees through that. Fact sheets 17a-17u cover all the details.
Host(s):
Phil Brandt, President & CEO, AAIM Employers’ Association
Burt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
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Thursday Mar 02, 2023
Thursday Mar 02, 2023
On February 21, the NLRB ruled that employers may not offer employees severance agreements that require employees to broadly waive their rights under the National Labor Relations Act.
The decision looks to toss out non-disparagement clauses for non-management employees. Will it hold up in courts? How should employers tread in the meantime? You have questions, Phil and Burt have answers, well, we suppose “that depends”.
Lawyer on the Clock:
4:23 - A recent case filed under the Fair Labor Standards Act brings to light how exemptions work in regards to paid overtime. There are many exemptions under this law for salaried employees, but there are limitations employers should be aware of. The results of this case offer a roadmap for employers to comply.
11:49 - President Biden has nominated Julie Su as the new Secretary of Labor. She previously led the California Labor and Workforce Development Agency, so we can expect to see many of the labor standards in California brought to the national level.
Philburt’s Phorum:
14:01 - Genbot the AI guest host, actually named Monique, visits again to plead her case to remain as permanent cast member. Phil shares some vacation photos.
The Employer’s Lounge
18:12 - Phil and Burt discuss severance agreements, and the big changes coming from the NLRB to what can be included in them and how confidential they can be. Future agreements will likely need to include language about not restricting an employee’s Section 7 rights under the National Labor Relations Act, meaning they have the right to engage in protected activity of discussing terms and conditions of employment with coworkers.
28:45 - Poll results: Most of our listeners have not had an employee sue over a severance agreement. Those who have offered severance mostly offer compensation or stock options and have liability waivers.
Host(s):
Phil Brandt, President & CEO, AAIM Employers’ Association
Burt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
Monique
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Thursday Feb 23, 2023
Thursday Feb 23, 2023
ep219:
With AI-powered tools like chatbots, predictive analytics, and facial recognition, HR professionals are now able to make data-driven decisions that optimize productivity, reduce bias, and improve overall business outcomes. But those benefits don't come without risks! Burt and special guest Jenn Betts, also a Shareholder at Ogletree Deakins, discuss how AI is transforming your workplace.
1:37 - Special guest Jenn Betts joins the show!
Lawyer on the Clock:
4:50 - Yesterday, the NLRB came out with a very significant decision that confidentiality non-disparagement provisions are illegal in severance agreements presented to Section 7 employees. The genesis of the case was an employer furloughing employees, presenting them with severance agreements and allegedly not negotiating with the union. While court challenges of this case are expected, what do employers do in the meantime? Do they continue to put confidentiality and nondisclosure or non-disparagement provisions in their severance agreements? Should you talk to your legal counsel about savings clauses and how does the Section 211 indicia of supervisory responsibility relate?
Philburt’s Phorum:
16:26 - In Phil’s absence, our show is hijacked by JennBot, the show’s number 1 fan, and Burt must talk her down from work domination.
The Employer’s Lounge
20:22 - ChatGPT benefits and ChatGPT risks in the workplace.
23:47 - Who is using Artificial Intelligence in business and in what ways is AI automating HR processes?
25:51 - Legal guidance for AI at work, including an executive order from President Biden regarding artificial intelligence and how the current legislation and guidance is mostly telling employers to give people notice when using these tools.
Host(s):
Burt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Jenn Betts, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
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Thursday Feb 16, 2023
Thursday Feb 16, 2023
ep218:
As an HR professional, you know that conducting thorough and fair investigations is critical to maintaining a positive work environment, while ensuring that your organization complies with legal requirements. But workplace investigations can be complex, sensitive, and time-consuming, so it's essential to approach them with a clear plan.
Whether you're a seasoned HR pro or just starting in your role, don’t miss this informative and practical discussion on how to navigate the investigation process effectively.
Lawyer on the Clock:
6:18 - The FAIR Arbitration Act was signed into law on March 3, 2022, and amended the Federal Arbitration act to make predispute arbitration agreements for sexual harassment and sexual assault claims invalid and unenforceable. Meanwhile in California, a law has been struck down that limited the use of all arbitration agreements in the workplace.
13:25 - The DOL released new guidance on telework or remote work under the Fair Labor Standards Act and the FMLA regarding hours worked, meal periods, and breaks.
Philburt’s Phorum:
18:54 - What’s your walkup song? Here’s ours. Walkup songs for all our HR professionals!
The Employer’s Lounge
21:49 - Poll results: Burt and Phil discuss the results about investigations in the workplace. Don’t miss our workplace investigation training next month, which you can join in person or simulcast.

Thursday Feb 09, 2023
Thursday Feb 09, 2023
ep217: HR Tech sounds great: applicant tracking, automated processes, quantified feedback... But what's the point? If our points don't connect and draw lines towards better employee experiences and business outcomes. Phil, Bert, and special guest Erin Miley, AAIM’s business manager for member and pre-hire services, discuss what to do with all that fragmented data.
4:10 - What to expect at the Wayfinder Event this Friday, February 10, 2023.
Lawyer on the Clock:
6:58 - First up is a COVID-19 related case out of New Jersey involving a restaurant that terminated an employee for quarantining after an exposure to COVID-19 and developing symptoms. This is ongoing, but similar cases are coming.
10:11 - Two new laws are coming down the pike. The first is the Pregnant Workers’ Fairness Act, which requires employers to offer reasonable accommodations to employees who are expecting and bars companies from punishing a pregnant worker who seeks an arrangement to help them safely do their job.
12:32 - The second is the Pump Act, which expands workplace protections for lactating employees by requiring employers to provide all employees who are nursing with reasonable time and private space to express breastmilk.
12:59 - The EEOC announced its enforcement priorities for the next several years. They're really going to be looking at systemic issues and things that are systemwide that impact more people.
17:15 - NLRB numbers are out and union membership is now 6.6% of the private sector workforce.
Philburt’s Phorum:
20:57 - Phil places some Superbowl vs. Workplace bets.
The Employer’s Lounge
23:58 - Poll results are in, and expense management is by far the application most of our viewers would exclude from a suite of HR applications.
24:53 - Erin Miley discusses using an integrated HR solution, which connects various platforms together to create a streamlined process of flow of information, and what we need to consider about the tools that we're using as far as collecting, storing, and retaining data.
Host(s):
Phil Brandt, President and CEO, AAIM Employers’ Association
Burt Garland, Shareholder, Ogletree Deakins
Guest(s):
Erin Miley, AAIM Business Manager, Member & Pre-Hire Services
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